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Monday, November 05, 2007 

The Argument Lab

I was as usual putting forth an argument with my colleague about the potential impacts of Rupee appreciation, this time I "edified" a mellowed down view while he was countering it. It was "this time" because only a couple of days back I was painting an aggressive view on this issue. He was quick to react, "How can you change your view so frequently?”I have been alleged of this "tricky" act, never have I denied it.

I always considered contradictory thoughts to be perfectly normal, more convinced in cases where multiple views are quite evident and pragmatic. The whole process of argument is put to dust when we personalize the argument; we have this habit of identifying the person with the view and therefore assume contradiction. It would be far easier and productive if we show prudence in the thought that is being discussed rather than associating it with the person.

I can today talk for rupee appreciation and tom against it. It would be perfectly futile if we do the following things.

  • Claim that the person personally believes in the view that rupee appreciation or depreciation although he might express a counter view.It could be that the person per se is indifferent in regard with this issue although he might have expressed a view.
  • Claim that the person should believe in depreciation just because he works in an industry which is benefited by the factor.
  • Claim that rupee appreciation is worse than depreciation just because the counter argument was put forth. In this uncertain world, Rubin, the popular economist says, it is better to assume a probabilistic thinking rather than binary ones which is unrealistic.

I can speak for my blunders as well while arguing, when the emotions take forefront, the argument becomes less of an intellectual exercise and more prone to create relationship drifts. I kind of become very perturbed when the person sticks to his/her view due to an ignorance about the counterview or if it’s sheer case of reluctance to validate it. The burden of proof lies with the person who invalidates it due to lack of knowledge. The other thing is clinging to the view when there are ample evidences to counter it and refuting the same with a rare case. The other case is a pure idiot syndrome and winning the argument parade, there is no point arguing in such cases.

Finally the definition of "Argument"

A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating a truth or falsehood; the methodical process of logical reasoning.

For people who are interested in common fallacies in argument

And for fans of Monty Python, No better way

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Sara,

I agree with you to a certain extent, in the sense - you can dissociate yourself from the argument and take a third party view on subjects not intimately related to you. In case where they are, we still can argue on both sides; but most of the times we can't shirk taking a stand. Then, the argument becomes personal. In any case, it pays to know both sides and take a stand.

Suresh

passionate arguements are never ever objective..if u ask me...u always a take a stand when u argue and during teh course of teh arguement it does get personal because u are passionate abt teh stand that u have taken...and i think it does lead to sound aurugements cos u go all out to defend ur stand..there i am already picking an arguement..btw monty python is an amazing series :D

passionat arguements are hardly ever impersonal and totally objective..and i think it helps when it does get personal..becuase if u are not involved u hardly can go all out in defense of ur stand..there already picking an arguement :)...true u can always shift ur stand tomorrow but for the moment that u pose the arguement u need to believe in what u stand....btw monty python is an amazing series..

From the many "aruguments" that i have had and partnered Sara for and against it is always best to disassociate the person and argument. One of the features in a typical mindset is that we tend to argue with a person's character much better than some random topic. So arguing on a theme or topic is seeming difficult as similar to fighting an invisible enemy.Many of us lose the thrill very soon when faced with a invisible enemy.

The same is the case when the in a argument with Sara!!

I was just going through the ccomments that were there for this post.. ass interesting as your post...

I agree with sara for the twin inside you.. There is always one...Though it is very dificult to differnetiate which twin are you arguing with...

As for being an passioante arguments, it is quite simple. It all depends on wherre your passion lies - In the argument or ini teh topic of the argument... Hmm. thinking of it, this makes a good topic for another post....

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